Details on the new 3.5.1 features

I don’t think the solution really addresses the issue.

For example I have a weekly tutoring session that is a conversation session. After the class I go back and add all of the new vocabulary words to my tutoring-class Skritter deck, in a new section titled with the date of that tutoring session.

However, I never really plan on going through and learning every single word that I added in to the deck section for that day. I search through and I look for the words that are the most relevant to me currently, and will learn those. However they’re definitely not in any particular order, because they came up organically in class, and I only pick and choose the ones that I really want to learn today.

So, like the OP, I have many decks with a large numbers of sections and large numbers of words, in which I pick and choose the ones that I want to learn. Sometimes that may be 10 out of 50 words other times it may be 40 out of 60 words. But the nature of the list is that my “interested” items are scattered throughout the list.

I definitely would not want to transfer many words (a few dozen every lesson) to a new list every week just in order to learn and keep an “intact” list of things that I’m going to learn 100% just to benefit Skritter’s “housekeeping” expectations.

I’m not saying we can’t improve this, but I’m offering a solution and workflow in the meantime that could improve the flow a bit. Especially if it causing daily frustration. It sounds like there is a lot of deck jumping, and that was a bit concerning to me (for the accounts sake). Our decks were not designed to be cherry-picked from in the way that was being described, and it puts a big burden on on the account.

What you’re describing is a similar issue in terms of getting kicked back to the deck section start after learning a word, but I wouldn’t recommend the same advice I gave for OP. You’ve already found the words you want to study and put them in a deck you own.

In your case, here are a few things you could consider:

  1. Organize the deck section based on priority or interest when making it.
  2. Press learn on the deck section, and just accept that life’s a little chaotic sometimes
  3. Edit the deck and take a minute to drag the times you want to study for the day to the top of the deck section (and then batch study)

Please don’t take these suggestions the wrong way. None of this might sound ideal, but they’re workarounds that you could try using in your Skritter flow. And they’d probably save some amount of time in the long run.

I too have conversation classes every week, but our workflow is way different. My path to new words is Skritter is:

  1. Add all words from Skype chat into Notion card for that week’s class.
  2. Add reading, definition, and 相關詞.
  3. Write some example sentences
  4. Pick the ones actually worth investing in long-term and add to Skritter
  5. Smash the learn button

Learning cards via the Info screen is very much a one-off experience. This is leaps-and-bounds more flexible than what was possible in previous iterations of Skritter, so we’re already quite pleased with where it is, and where it is heading in the future.

We can certainly see if we can return you to the same spot in the deck section when you’re done, but I don’t wanna make any guarantees right now. @josh might be able to comment on the complexity of remembering the location in the deck when returning from the learning experience, but it might not be easy. At the moment, it is the two of you talking about this issue, and I’ve got to balance that with everything else going on in our business.

P.S. I too am a dad with two kids, and a job who’s trying to study Chinese outside my typical work day. So, I have a pretty good understanding of what kind time and energy you have per day to study Chinese, and use Skritter.

I totally get that the current solution is not great for either of your study flows. We do have plans to allow you to select a lot of random items in the deck and jump into a learning session for those items and other things like that, but we’re working on Progress at the moment :slight_smile:

did talk with Josh this morning. Not the most difficult task in the world, but likely not included in 3.5.2 patch. We will get this done in the near(ish) future. Opening an improvement JIRA today!

thanks for the detailed study flows. Certainly helped to put the issue into perspective :slight_smile:


This doesn’t seem to be working on 3.5.3., or maybe it’s just me (?)

The new rejuvenation popup forces you to the top of the deck to calculate values. Opening a JIRA bug fix now so that once you hide the popup from the deck it’ll remember your position correctly. Thanks for pointing this out!

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