How to properly learn Pinyin

Hi all,

I just started learning Chinese (simplified), know a few dozen characters now. My biggest problem is remembering pronunciation.

What I think will help a lot is to better study Pinyin first, before I take on much more characters.

I got some things right from learning it through skritter with learning new characters, but I’d like some more structure and less distraction. So pure Pinyin.

I found tables, with audio, that help me a lot already. I just started using them. See the letters, pronounce it, see if I was correct. Is this the best way to do it or are there better ways? And is it possible somewhere to learn it the other way around, hearing just audio and then see if you wrote it down correct?

All help is much appreciated!

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Congratulations on your progress and decision to study Chinese!

One suggestion: you could click on the sound tab on Pleco dictionary and listen to each character being pronounced. You can download both male and female voices for the whole dictionary.

I think for basic character reading there is no cost for this? But there may be a cost involved in downloading more extensive sound files for Pleco’s reader series.

Also, Skritter has some new program for people new to character learning that may interest you - check out the other most recent thread under “Chinese” category.

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@Svenkevs

Found a few audio sites for you to practice:

Pinyin and tone pairs:
https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-pinyin-chart.php

Phrases in both pinyin and characters:
https://www.chineselearnonline.com/tone-and-pinyin-practice/

An entire website dedicated to pinyin and tones:
http://pinyinpractice.com/wangzhi/

And a site with lots of links and other ideas for more practice, and other useful learning Chinese info:

All the best!

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Great resources @Therebackagain thanks for sharing them!

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I think you’re on the right track and @Therebackagain has already provided some resources you can use. I think it’s worthwhile to highlight that you are in fact talking about (at least) three separate problems that might also have separate solutions.

  1. Hearing/pronouncing the sounds in Mandarin
  2. Remembering how those sounds are written
  3. Remembering how each word is pronounced

The first problem is by far the hardest. It’s hard to summarise how to learn pronunciation in one forum reply like this, so I’ll point to an article I wrote about this:

If you’re trying to hear the difference between sounds (including tones), then this is for you (it says tones in the title, but the same applies to pronunciation in general):

The second problem is trivial, and you will learn this by working with vocabulary. I think I’ve never met a non-beginner who thinks this is hard, except maybe for some minor things like which vowel to put the tone mark over. Generally speaking, just keep studying and you will learn this without too much trouble.

The third problem seems to vary a lot between learners. I’ve learnt Chinese for 13 years and I still forget the tones in some words, for instance. It’s not that I can’t pronounce these words, it’s that I forgot what the correct tone is (often because I mixed it up with another word or something like that). I seldom forget initials and finals. Other learners find other things hard. The trick is, as usual, to listen more, to reinforce your mental model of how a word is supposed to sound. If you really want to use mnemonics, you can:

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Thanks so much for the support to all of you! These suggestions and articles will really help me!

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加油💪

Also, as usual @SkritterOlle has an article for everything :wink:

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@SkritterOlle and @SkritterJake

Here’s how Skritter can contribute to our aural and pronunciation practice:

—>> hurry up with getting pronunciation of individual characters within words into Beta Skritter!

I’ve been eagerly waiting for you to keep your promise on bringing this feature from Legacy Skritter forward.

Beta Skritter is so silent compared to chatty Legacy. I am so sad… :sob:

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