the hide reading is there but is not working when doing writting tests.
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Hi, I have tried out the current Android Beta again and there still seems to be alot missing from the old app. Let me start with what I like though:
- new writing input recognition (seems more accurate)
- overall design
- continue to next card directly on tapping grading button
- new learn/test modes
- seeing progress on lists that i am studying
- progress info (with activity feed)
However there are a few changes / features missing from the old app that are pretty serious in my opinion:
- detailed grading buttons (wrong, unsure, good, easy)
- adding new items to review while reviewing (drawn from all current lists)
- per character mnemonics (the ones i have been writing myself, now i only see some default ones and i believe they are also per word level)
- adding new items to a list
- showing my banned words
I have posted about the grading buttons before and I believe you are bringing them back? Adding new items while reviewing is absolutely essential for me, I like having new words from multiple lists, this is not possible by doing learn mode. Also I would like the see new words appear in my review on the same day. Is it possible to just have this old way of adding new items next to the learn mode method? Then everyone can decide which way they want to use the app. About the mnemonics, what is your plan? Are you gonna add back my own definitions? This would be a major loss, I am using them rather often for the compound characters. Couldn’t you show the default one as a word-level mnemonic and the user defined ones on a character level both at the same time in the info screen? Or enable toggling them?
Furthermore there are a few things that are not optimal in my opinion:
- Deck previews are too big when browsing lists, I would like an option to just how the titles
- It is annoying to have to press long to show the next stroke, why not just leave it as it is with a short tap?
All in all I really like your ideas with the new learn and test modes and I think it is a good way of enhancing the app to appeal to more different study methods. I just feel like you are neglecting some of the features that are available in the old app which are quite essential to some people. In my opinion the features I mentioned about that are still missing should be integrated in the new app as soon as possible, new versions should not lose features that many people rely on in their daily study.
EDIT:
One feature that I think would be super useful is to add a skip button so you can skip (and mark as ‘good’/‘easy’) a single character in a word. I have seen this mentioned before and I think this would be a major time saver for word with 不，的，得 etc. This should also be trivial to implement, the question is only where to place such a button. What do you think about this?
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i think it is better this way because it avoids accidenral mistakes and before i used to see the next stroke when i was about to write and it used to upset me. maybe a toggle to enable disable long touches will be a good idea.
the detailed grading is there. you just need to enable it. the switch its in the study settings right at the top.
I think you are right, everyone has different preferences, so best would be to offer both options.
thanks, i didn’t see the different sections in the settings screen.
I have noticed that in the new skritter, if I learn say 10 new words one day, the first 30 reviews of the next day will be those 10 words. I think it’s kind of useless because I would then for example be asked for a definition and hear the word, and then it would ask for the pronunciation only two cards after, even if I have 100+ items to review.
I think it would be nice to be able to shuffle the reviews to avoid that.
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just a thought, to have another set of reviews with translation. for example to show the english definition and think the chinese.
maybe the reading and definition cards to be merged in to one.
i like the way the new writting tells you the word and you have to write it.this a combination of 听力 and writting. shame i have to disable the reading and audio when the disable reading toggle is fixed.
also it would be nice for words and sentenses with no translation to have automated/robotic/google translate audio, the same way pleco works with their vocab.
Just some more things I noticed:
- major issue: can’t see progress for current week/month (i use this to keep track of my progress and goals of how many new words and characters i am learning daily on average)
- long loading of review and learn mode
- need to press button to continue when doing learn mode (why not enable just pressing the written character just as in review mode?)
- choosing a different grading than the suggested one seems a bit buggy, only works when pressing longer (at least it still shows the old grading when going back a card after just quickly pressing another grading)
- i personally would prefer if the writing field took up the whole width of the screen, just as it used to
when is hide reading for writting going to be fixed. the writting tests are super easy when you can read the pinying. i feel that i am cheating.
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i just lost over 100 reviews because i closed the app by accident. i am gutted:(. do we always need to click the x button every time we stop reviewing?
You would need to either finish the entire review session or use the X button to leave the review session to make sure the reviews are saved. If the app is force closed before this you would unfortunately lose any completed reviews in that session.
This is already hooked up in the latest internal build and will be available soon!
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This is something that is currently being worked on, good point!
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why though. the previous versions were saved on the fly?
i recommend then in the drop down when we choose the number of cards. the default value to be 10 cards and all cards to be the last option. this way people can save their progress more freguently and also avoid people with big nunber of reviews, loosing them if close the app by accident.
another solution would be nice if the review is idle for few minutes to submit the results automatically.
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How soon is soon? Last I heard it was supposed to be available later this week, but now it’s Sunday so…
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Should be later this week. We were waiting to finish up work on a larger feature and need to do some testing/verification before release. Sorry for the delay!
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So we will see it today?
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Would it be possible to just bring out the hide reading for writing cards in a small update even if the larger feature you’re working on still isn’t ready?
when is the next beta update?
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They said on the other thread it was pretty much ready last Friday but they didn’t want to release it before a weekend.
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