When will HSK 3.0 vocabulary lists make into the app?

This is level 100 sorcerer wisdom :beers:

I’ve added the third level,too:
Skritter | HSK level 3 new (2021)

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I have used the official lists, and you’re right: it does make more sense to study the words in some order that makes sense, for instance following the chapters in your book - but as far as I know, no new course material has been published yet. I have copied these lists into skritter for reviewing purposes, not for people who see them for the first time.

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I may be an oddball, but I find that adding vocabulary by juxtaposing different usages of the same character (i.e what you happen to get when you have an alphabetical list) to be quite helpful.

Yes, it’s true the info doesn’t “flow” as well, but from the standpoint of understanding some of the variations and nuance that a single character can provide to words, it’s quite helpful.

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Thanks for the hard work. Could we by any chance also get HSK lists of characters ? I’m not a big fan of reviewing words on Skritter, but I find it a great help to not forget how to write the characters previously learned.
Cheers

Do you mean characters that appear in HSK, or do you mean single-character words that appear in HSK? Once the lists are ready, these types of variations shouldn’t be too hard to create, but I don’t see that they would appeal to many students.

The problem with the first option is that you’d then study lots of things that you’re not actually required to know (individual meanings and usages of characters that only appear in a word, for example), and for most people, being shown all meanings of a single character is rather overwhelming. That being said, as was recently discussed here, studying single characters can of course be useful, so I’m not saying we won’t create such a deck!

The problem with the second option is that it’s rather arbitrary, but I think you probably meant just characters that appear in HSK!

Yes, I mean the characters that appear in the HSK levels. Though it’s true it can be overwhelming for beginners, in more advanced stages, I found it to almost be a necessary step. As you mentionned earlier, the only way to actually progress in skills is to use them. When I started reading the newspaper, I bumped into a lot of characters I knew, in words I hadn’t learnt; and I realized that if I had digged earlier into their individual meaning, I would have been able to understand and learn new words much faster and much more “smoothly”, as their construction would make sense to me. Anyway, as you said, the target demographic might be quite restricted. But it exists !
Cheers !

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@Hjet thanks for these lists. I meant only that new users should probably wait for the frequency-ordered lists Skritter is making, but as a more advanced user, I found the alphabetical format more useful for me personally as it often shows a series of (initial) characters used in various words, and the frequency of the words doesn’t matter at this point.

For review of old vocabulary purposes, it’s excellent. Thanks!

Edit: I’ve tried adding the third list but something is wrong.

When use your direct link and click “study now” I get an error message of not being able to retrieve data.

I’m very curious, if any one knows, what is the individual character count for these new HSK lists?

The first has over 700 words, and the second over 1000, but how many characters does that involve?

Sheer curiosity here.

How appropriate the new levels are, how far along one’s personal progress gets you now, how well were they designed.

No interest in the actual exams. It’s just another measure.

The official published Hanban table says 300 chars per level for HSK 1 to 6, but the listed word-count in the table doesn’t match what you are stating for the non-Official Skritter lists above.

The source doc breaks them down into BOTH separate character and word lists (and actually there is a third category of “written” characters leveled as High/Medium/Low instead of 1-9) and lists them all (1 to 300 for each level…except 7-9 which is one group of 1200 characters). Perhaps the lists posted earlier decompose and include all characters and words in the same list.

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Yes, my apologies. I was looking at the number of words when both traditional and simplified versions are included. The lists make clear what the word count is (500 for level 1 and 772 for level 2.)

Thanks for the character count!

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Is there any way to update this list? It’s based on HSK 1.0. I love me some Heisig, but this is way out of date.

Update; So, I found this updated(HSK2.0) list for Pleco, and am currently trying to figure out how to import it into Skritter.

Update: I’m copy/pasting the vocab through the legacy edition of Skritter. Will make public when it’s finished.

Book 1

Book 2

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Dear Skritter Team,
will these HSK 2021 lists be also available in the frequency order like the current ones?

I believe so.

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Yes, that will be our default sorting.

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Audit is done and we’re getting decks sorted into frequency and sections. We’re also preparing some special decks for the handwriting portion of the tests and using the same sorting methods for those.

We’ll have a blog post out and lots of links once it’s all done.

Thanks for all your patience on this stuff. There is a lot to tackle, but we’re excited to get all this stuff on Skritter soon enough.

-Jake

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Hello,
I know you’re very busy with the new skritter beta, but is there any news regarding the new vocabulary?
It might have already been discussed elsewhere in the forum, I’m sorry if that’s the case.
Thank you for your help :slight_smile:

We’re working on that in parallel! They should be ready when the new policy document takes effect, i.e. July 1st. Jake and I are working on auditing, sorting and presenting them in a way that is as helpful as possible; we don’t want to just dump data directly into the app, which is why it’s not already available!

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